The CIA articles that the NYTimes and others published, as divergence to Sy's expose, were ridiculous. I can't remember where I read the total and utter annihilation of that NYT article, with the purported rented small yacht captained by Ukrainians that, of course, Zelensky knew nothing about. The NYT is such a propaganda rag. When I hear purportedly intelligent people believing those obvious spook stories, I just want to tear my hair out!!!
I also found it strange that Mr. Hersh did not allow comments. At first I chalked it up to his age and not having the energy to wade through all the comments or maybe just not giving a shit what people thought of his work. But now I’m not so sure. He seems to be very concerned about the story by the CIA via the NYT. So he obviously wants people to believe his version of events.
I think it really hurt his credibility to not allow discussion of his article.
"The expert had more questions about the alleged yacht. “How does a 49-foot sailboat find the pipelines in the Baltic Sea? The pipelines are not that big and they are not on the charts that come with the lease. Maybe the thought was to put the two divers into the water”—not very easy to do so from a small yacht—“and let the divers look for it. How long can a diver stay down in their suits? Maybe fifteen minutes. Which means it would take the diver four years to search one square mile."
Pipelines, undersea cables, any underwater obstruction, are indeed on nautical charts. The need for this is obvious, so this seems like an error to me. They may not "come with the lease" but they are de rigueur, indeed essential for any ship or boat operating on the open seas.
Finding the pipeline was simple, easy.
Here is a link to an official website on Canadian nautical charts (it's the same everywhere) that shows some of the maps symbols used to denote the exact location of underwater pipelines.
"Canadian Chart 1 Symbols, Abbreviations and Terms"
From what I understand, Mark Sleboda works for Russia Today and is simply providing you with the official views of the Russian government.
Hitler killed roughly 6 million Jews in the Holocaust, many in Ukraine. Stalin killed 3.5-5.0 million during the collectivization of agriculture in Ukraine and the famine that followed, which the government did nothing to alleviate. Stalin admitted to Churchill that 10 million “Kulaks” (not just Ukrainians) had died resisting collectivization. This event, the Holodomor, is now widely regarded to have been genocide and has been since the Soviet Union dissolved and official state records have been available to scholars.
When the Germans invaded in 1941 and occupied Ukraine, many Ukrainians naturally looked at the Nazis as liberators. Under Steven Bandera, the Organization of Ukrainian Nationalists (OUN) fought a guerrilla war against the Red Army until 1952, helped kill Jews, and ethnically cleansed Poles from the part of pre-war Poland incorporated in post-war Ukraine.
Since Ukraine became independent, some anti-Russian Ukrainians have adopted Banderas and other members of the OUN as national heroes, especially in Western Ukraine (Lviv) where there are few ethnic Russian speakers. The Ultranationalist Svoboda party in Ukraine takes inspiration from the OUN and has members with Fascist ideology and some are anti-Semitic. At their peak, they got about 10% of the vote; but only 2% in the last election. Only 1 out of 400+ members of Parliament is from Svoboda. Fascism and anti-Semitism are a negligible fore in Ukraine today. Looking upon Steven Banderas as an anti-Russian patriot does not mean Ukraine is run by Neo-Nazis. The vast majority of Ukrainians strongly support Zelenskyy, a Jew. However, they also appreciate that members of Svoboda provided some of the best organized demonstrators in the EuroMaidan and the bulk of the volunteers who fought in Eastern Ukraine while the country was getting re-organizated after the Revolution of Dignity.
Putin’s Ukrainian policy is based on the fallacy that a Ukrainian people do not have a separate identity from the Russian people. This is nonsense. The war would have ended quickly if the Ukrainians saw themselves as Russian. Before the seizure of Crimea, the census showed that 70% of the Ukrainian people were born and raised as native Ukrainian speakers. Now many Russian speakers are behind Russian lines and the people are suffering from regular terror missile attacks on cities far from the front line and from war crimes in the areas the Russians initially seized and left. There is zero chance of learning anything realistic about the was from a Russian puppet like Sleboda. If you must, there are plenty of American critics of the war who can provide you with information about the war that isn’t pure propaganda. However, the most effective way to learn is to listen to experts on both sides and then make up your own mind.
If you look at the history of the American intelligence agencies you will find the Dulles Brothers at the center of it all. Their main focus seemed to be making sure U.S.energy companies especially oil and natural gas, would always have access to markets and that competing energy would be kept on a short leash. America made a huge switch to petroleum at the end of World War 2. Everyone bought a car and all the farmers gave up horses and bought tractors.
That was the first big step in Global Warming and making money without regard to environmental outcomes or human health safety. It has been downhill since then. Dulles and the CIA set up Aramco so the US controlled the output of the Saudi oil fields and the money being made. When Nixon took the US off the gold standard and tie the price of oil to the dollar, it put big oil in charge of the world economy.
No one the US voted for any of this. It just came down from on high from the rich kids who run the country.
The CIA articles that the NYTimes and others published, as divergence to Sy's expose, were ridiculous. I can't remember where I read the total and utter annihilation of that NYT article, with the purported rented small yacht captained by Ukrainians that, of course, Zelensky knew nothing about. The NYT is such a propaganda rag. When I hear purportedly intelligent people believing those obvious spook stories, I just want to tear my hair out!!!
I also found it strange that Mr. Hersh did not allow comments. At first I chalked it up to his age and not having the energy to wade through all the comments or maybe just not giving a shit what people thought of his work. But now I’m not so sure. He seems to be very concerned about the story by the CIA via the NYT. So he obviously wants people to believe his version of events.
I think it really hurt his credibility to not allow discussion of his article.
Artificial Intelligence....greatly benificial in physics, engineering, and other sciences.
It should be considered a criminal act to use it in human interaction...AI = THE END JUSTIFIES THE MEANS!
The Nordstream Pipeline damage is such a blatantly false flag that even Liberals notice.
I believe that government and its mouthpieces should be required to post uncensored comments.
Okay, I will start...
From the article:
"The expert had more questions about the alleged yacht. “How does a 49-foot sailboat find the pipelines in the Baltic Sea? The pipelines are not that big and they are not on the charts that come with the lease. Maybe the thought was to put the two divers into the water”—not very easy to do so from a small yacht—“and let the divers look for it. How long can a diver stay down in their suits? Maybe fifteen minutes. Which means it would take the diver four years to search one square mile."
Pipelines, undersea cables, any underwater obstruction, are indeed on nautical charts. The need for this is obvious, so this seems like an error to me. They may not "come with the lease" but they are de rigueur, indeed essential for any ship or boat operating on the open seas.
Finding the pipeline was simple, easy.
Here is a link to an official website on Canadian nautical charts (it's the same everywhere) that shows some of the maps symbols used to denote the exact location of underwater pipelines.
"Canadian Chart 1 Symbols, Abbreviations and Terms"
https://www.charts.gc.ca/publications/chart1-carte1/sections/l-offsho/submarinepipelines-eng.html#section
From what I understand, Mark Sleboda works for Russia Today and is simply providing you with the official views of the Russian government.
Hitler killed roughly 6 million Jews in the Holocaust, many in Ukraine. Stalin killed 3.5-5.0 million during the collectivization of agriculture in Ukraine and the famine that followed, which the government did nothing to alleviate. Stalin admitted to Churchill that 10 million “Kulaks” (not just Ukrainians) had died resisting collectivization. This event, the Holodomor, is now widely regarded to have been genocide and has been since the Soviet Union dissolved and official state records have been available to scholars.
When the Germans invaded in 1941 and occupied Ukraine, many Ukrainians naturally looked at the Nazis as liberators. Under Steven Bandera, the Organization of Ukrainian Nationalists (OUN) fought a guerrilla war against the Red Army until 1952, helped kill Jews, and ethnically cleansed Poles from the part of pre-war Poland incorporated in post-war Ukraine.
Since Ukraine became independent, some anti-Russian Ukrainians have adopted Banderas and other members of the OUN as national heroes, especially in Western Ukraine (Lviv) where there are few ethnic Russian speakers. The Ultranationalist Svoboda party in Ukraine takes inspiration from the OUN and has members with Fascist ideology and some are anti-Semitic. At their peak, they got about 10% of the vote; but only 2% in the last election. Only 1 out of 400+ members of Parliament is from Svoboda. Fascism and anti-Semitism are a negligible fore in Ukraine today. Looking upon Steven Banderas as an anti-Russian patriot does not mean Ukraine is run by Neo-Nazis. The vast majority of Ukrainians strongly support Zelenskyy, a Jew. However, they also appreciate that members of Svoboda provided some of the best organized demonstrators in the EuroMaidan and the bulk of the volunteers who fought in Eastern Ukraine while the country was getting re-organizated after the Revolution of Dignity.
Putin’s Ukrainian policy is based on the fallacy that a Ukrainian people do not have a separate identity from the Russian people. This is nonsense. The war would have ended quickly if the Ukrainians saw themselves as Russian. Before the seizure of Crimea, the census showed that 70% of the Ukrainian people were born and raised as native Ukrainian speakers. Now many Russian speakers are behind Russian lines and the people are suffering from regular terror missile attacks on cities far from the front line and from war crimes in the areas the Russians initially seized and left. There is zero chance of learning anything realistic about the was from a Russian puppet like Sleboda. If you must, there are plenty of American critics of the war who can provide you with information about the war that isn’t pure propaganda. However, the most effective way to learn is to listen to experts on both sides and then make up your own mind.
At the time, I tried to reduce the Nord Stream incident to its essentials with a meme: https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Facce59bc-fa92-43a4-912a-d8cf6406f85e_2048x1365.jpeg – Considering the motive, the means and the beneficiary in this act, the perpetrator jumps right in your face. As for Sy not allowing comments on his articles, I think he is just tired and no longer cares what ordinary people think, say or write. May he be happy with that.
Could interest you . . . The Decline of The West.
https://les7eb.substack.com/
If you look at the history of the American intelligence agencies you will find the Dulles Brothers at the center of it all. Their main focus seemed to be making sure U.S.energy companies especially oil and natural gas, would always have access to markets and that competing energy would be kept on a short leash. America made a huge switch to petroleum at the end of World War 2. Everyone bought a car and all the farmers gave up horses and bought tractors.
That was the first big step in Global Warming and making money without regard to environmental outcomes or human health safety. It has been downhill since then. Dulles and the CIA set up Aramco so the US controlled the output of the Saudi oil fields and the money being made. When Nixon took the US off the gold standard and tie the price of oil to the dollar, it put big oil in charge of the world economy.
No one the US voted for any of this. It just came down from on high from the rich kids who run the country.